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Created: May 26, 2007
Updated: Nov 18, 2008

Ed Jonas

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Greetings to all

I have just created a new group and membership applications are now being accepted

 

Site: http://www.wiserearth.org/group/uniecobudget

 

looking for about 24 or so qualified members from the following demograph.

 

thanks

 

Alfred Jonas

 

 

The G-20  plus The Four

 

One qualified member only from each please....

 

please submit resumes

 

these are currently only volunteer positions for a working group

 


The Four
North America

There is no accepted special name for all indigenous peoples in North America as a whole, although Native American is sometimes used. The term North American Indian is often used for a member of the more restricted group comprising the First Nations in Canada together with the Native Americans in the United States. This term is usually understood to exclude the Alaskan Natives and the Inuit and Métis of Canada, and the indigenous peoples of Mexico. In Mexico, the preferred expression is Indigenous Peoples (pueblos indígenas in Spanish, however, Indians (indios, índios) is often used too, even by indigenous peoples themselves, since this expression is not seen as derogatory.[citation needed]

South America

In South America, like in Mexico, the preferred expression is Indigenous Peoples (pueblos indígenas in Spanish, povos indígenas in Portuguese). However, Indians (indios, índios) is often used too, even by indigenous peoples themselves, since this expression is not seen as derogatory.[
The Indigenous peoples in Brazil (Portuguese: povos indígenas) comprise a large number of distinct ethnic groups who inhabited the country prior to the arrival of Europeans around 1500. Unlike Christopher Columbus, who thought he had reached the East Indies, the Portuguese, most notably by Vasco da Gama, had already reached India via the Indian Ocean route when they reached Brazil.

West Oceania

In most parts of Oceania, indigenous peoples outnumber the descendents of colonists. Exceptions include Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii. According to the 2001 Australian census, Indigenous Australians make up 2.4% of the total population, while in New Zealand 14.6% of the population identify at least partially as indigenous Māori, with slightly more than half (53%) of all Māori residents identifying solely as Māori. Indigenous Hawaiians make up nearly a quarter of the general Hawaiian population.

East Africa

Although the vast majority of African peoples can be considered to be indigenous in the sense that they have originated from that continent and nowhere else, in practice identity as an "Indigenous people" as per the term's modern application is more restrictive, and certainly not every African ethnic group claims identification under these terms. Groups and communities who do claim this recognition are those who by a variety of historical and environmental circumstances have been placed outside of the dominant state systems, and whose traditional practices and land claims often come into conflict with the objectives and policies promulgated by governments, companies and surrounding dominant societies.
The G-20

The Group of Twenty (G-20) Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors was established in 1999 to bring together systemically important industrialized and developing economies to discuss key issues in the global economy. The inaugural meeting of the G-20 took place in Berlin, on December 15–16, 1999, hosted by German and Canadian finance ministers.

1. Mandate

The G-20 is an informal forum that promotes open and constructive discussion between industrial and emerging-market countries on key issues related to global economic stability. By contributing to the strengthening of the international financial architecture and providing opportunities for dialogue on national policies, international co-operation, and international financial institutions, the G-20 helps to support growth and development across the globe.

2. Origins     

The G-20 was created as a response both to the financial crises of the late 1990s and to a growing recognition that key emerging-market countries were not adequately included in the core of global economic discussion and governance.
Prior to the G-20 creation, similar groupings to promote dialogue and analysis had been established at the initiative of the G-7. The G-22 met at Washington D.C. in April and October 1998. Its aim was to involve non-G-7 countries in the resolution of global aspects of the financial crisis then affecting emerging-market countries. Two subsequent meetings comprising a larger group of participants (G-33) held in March and April 1999 discussed reforms of the global economy and the international financial system. The proposals made by the G-22 and the G-33 to reduce the world economy's susceptibility to crises showed the potential benefits of a regular international consultative forum embracing the emerging-market countries. Such a regular dialogue with a constant set of partners was institutionalized by the creation of the G-20 in 1999.

3. Membership     

The members of the G-20 are the finance ministers and central bank governors of 19 countries: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the United States of America. The European Union is also a member, represented by the rotating Council presidency and the European Central Bank. To ensure global economic fora and institutions work together, the Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the President of the World Bank, plus the chairs of the International Monetary and Financial Committee and Development Committee of the IMF and World Bank, also participate in G-20 meetings on an ex-officio basis.
The G-20 thus brings together important industrial and emerging-market countries from all regions of the world. Together, member countries represent around 90 per cent of global gross national product, 80 per cent of world trade (including EU intra-trade) as well as two-thirds of the world's population. The G-20's economic weight and broad membership gives it a high degree of legitimacy and influence over the management of the global economy and financial system.
By Alfred G. Jonas Sunday November 16, 2008 Earth

 

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I guess the interesting and perhaps questionable thing is that the decision for the
car to run or work was or is not based on the law of physics because in all physicality
it should be purring like a kitten but the decision is based or made by the cars computer
or its programer or ? whoever programed the specs and interface.
Thats interesting because it inserts a kind of middleman in the mobility or transportation
issue... a somewhat mysterious middleman perhaps or ??? well
the implications are numerous I suppose or perhaps Im just paranoid or penniless
or pissed off. Oh well food for thought or discussion perhaps.

ed
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Hi all
my birthday today
happy birthday me

anyway
my cars computer killed my car....
what you ask?
well the computer in the car made a decision based on its programing I guess
that my car was not in a safe or efficient or optimum state and therefore
killed any possibility of it working unless and yes there is an unless, unless I
repaired the problems. Now in some peoples estimation the problems wrong
with it were minor things like dirty filters and bad timing and build up deposits
weak electrical connections, faulty sensors etc etc
but no! my  car and its computer have or has standards and unless my car
meets those standards it will not let itself run. Why ? because its cares or the programer
cared? Cared about what? Cared about cars running in a certain way , Which way
and why ? so they could make money or so that they would not damage themselves
or the environment and other cars etc etc ?  but but...???? so they
put a computer in the mix and walla.... just where I'm going to get the money
to make the minor repairs remains to be seen so hence I am carless at the moment
and disabled and poor to boot. but yes my car remains firm, even if its an emergency
I can not override the computer and get it to go..... but no one told me that
.... it would have been nice to know but now its been proven so I thought I'd let
you know.... if your car has a computer.... it has certain ? standards and you better
have moola if youre going to keep it running up to  those standards. Whose standards
well Im not sure how they were determined or by who by I don't recall having a say
in the matter but I suppose its a sort of good idea... but you would wish perhaps
that the disabled might get a break or a discount.... oh well sighs....

carry on....


happy birthday to me

ed
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This thus logically and economical and value wise ties and leads into the needs for standards on goods and services that are bought and sold because without some measureable or noted condition or state of standards or qualities such can not reasonably be assessed in terms of what they claim or can do in terms of obtaining satisfaction in terms of transactions and the work and method that has gone into their making. As well can such achieve the same results in say a return purchase or sale and hence does it have sustainability, "value" or consistency of merit and quality control.
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Lowest Price after all is not generally or always the best or fairest value especially in the free market system. Whether people don't know this or don't care perhaps is what has led to a market and consumerism that is somewhat mindless, unconscious and unsustainable.
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For instance... Fair Trade

Not the Free market system but the Fair Market system.
A market that gives credit and value where credit and value are due.
But does or is one not required to solicite credit and value where it is due
or is it or should it be automatic?
Well in a manipulative strategy value and credit is solicited for things that have
less value and worth then they reasonably have as in a system that relies on dysfuntional
and impulsive purchases. Sort of relying and capitalizing on deficites and disabilities and
unnecessary wants of human nature. In the nature of such a system geniuine and necessary
transactions are mired in the filth of greed and excess. A system which exploits or punishes people as it were for their lack of sound and educated judgement in the purchase, selling, marketing and desire for goods and services.
Hence the buyer or seller beware caveat... yet is that a just or caring system?
No but it is the the free market approach... yet in a fair market system reason may return and comes to play and bear instead of deficites and emotional insecurities which though are apparent and can be exploited are not as that is seen as being
unsustainable and eventually detrimental to the whole as a method or strategy of transaction.
So from a system that penalizes, exploits and harms in the name of freedom thus we shift to one that restores and sustains in the name and virtue of fairness.

ed jonas
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I just received a message from wiser earth user Norah01

who seems to be using the site for date scamming purposes

just a heads up

ed

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This sites data, program and method integrity seems a little specious on further testing and I suggest it be removed.
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swanlake 9 months ago
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Heres a co2 Calculator site for households

link = http://actonco2.direct.gov.uk/index.html

mine clocked in at 0.55 tonnes of CO2 per year
just above a target of 0.44 tonnes

ed
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Well yes diversity is a necessary component for sustainability.
I myself have other interests which I mesh with my environmental concerns.
Its just it requires an organizational structure which is flexible yet meaning and easily accessed and searched
and not given to creating to many categories. It has to have a standard directory sort of classification and subject structure.
For simplicity sake you could use the one in a phone book directory or the Google directory. It would be good too though to have them spread around on different servers so that there will be some part of the site up if a certain server or site went down as well as backing up the data of course and then theres editing and arranging the site map in a meaningful logical and intuitive way.
I wouldn't mind a wiser earth "arts" component myself as there are disciplines and uses for art and music
such as art activism. see my homepage
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Well I was able to track down Calgary Alberta Canada as the first municipality in North America with ISO
14000 registration.
link = http://content.calgary.ca/CCA/City+Hall/Business+Units/Environmental+Management/Our+Environmental+Management+System/EnviroSystem.htm

I'm not sure of the status of "registration" as opposed or in conjunction with "accreditation" but hey its a start.
How this will play out in terms of actions and policy and development remains to be seen I guess. My own city is planning on something similar this year.

Any other takers, apparently the Canadian Government wants municipalities to have sustainability plans
as of 2007.

carry on...

ed
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Feb 6 2008
Wednesday
Canada

Hi...
Well where to start...
I suppose a good place to start is in ones own community
and what to do...
Well I suppose some sort of green audit or footprint analysis would be prudent
Preferably it would have some global standards for a green audit
but I don't think there is such a thing yet except perhaps for the ISO 14000
series or maybe the Leeds Green Building standards.
But I think if each persons own community would do a green audit
and calculate the green deficits and benefits then it could determine the priorities
and such and allocate a budget and time table to implement the changes.
Any ideas anyone about what an standard audit should consist of?
I see the UK has done some similar work on "Ecological Budgets".

ed
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I think or suspect then the interm stop gap or artificial measure will have to be to implement immediate carbon secquestration
but this by no means is a sustainable solution as it just treats a symptom like warming or excessive CO2 or excessive waste.and consumption. The real point is to ease out Carbon to a minimum and opt for more sustainable alternatives and renewables instead. Fossil fuels should not be burned but used in the limited production of goods and not energy.


ed
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Feb 5, 2008
Tuesday
Canada

OPERATION GREEN HEART


It seems humanity is faced with an operation of sorts. Switching from a Carbon Economy to a Sustainable one is
a major open heart procedure of sorts. Why? Because the economy of the world is a living dynamic thing.
To simply switch ourselves over is not so easy and methods are perhaps necessary to wean us from
the old economy or heart as it were to the new one. So how can that occur. Well in normal heart surgery
the patient is hooked up and switched over to a mechanized heart while the operation occurs. This heart
continues the necessary heart functions while the transplant occurs. In much the same way perhaps the
switch from carbon to sustainable will perhaps required some artificial aid to facilitate the switch over.
But it is compounded by the fact that the green heart say is an untried and unprecidented system and one, will it even work
to the degree required or will it require major life style and standard changes as well. This is compounded by the fact
that the doctor and patient are sort of one and the same, thus we are operating on ourselves. Plus as well
it requires some basic infrastructural changes as well.
Is it doable? Well perhaps some dry runs would aid the process and help to work out the bugs.
Anyway I suppose the point is to do this switchover right we should approach it in the right way
and realize the risks and benefits. We are capable of individual heart transplants now we just have to conceive
of a societal heart transplant with perhaps the foresight involved in the individual procedures. It is prudent
to frame the situation in the proper way to obtain the desired outcome which is perhaps a reduction CO2 emmisions
and the living more in harmony and compatibility with the Earth.
This is one small step for man but one giant leap for the Earth as a whole.

ed
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Hi Mike
I haven't heard of any cities making that move, it seems like a pretty good idea and enterprise for a
courageous municipality to take. I understand the winner in the Denmark contest set up their own solar
grid with government monies. A good move I think and example to others. Its quite a logical fit in a way
as it would give a town a degree of independence but I suppose being on the grid has its benefits in
low times. Thats the big problem with solar at the moment is the storage aspect. I think some combo situation
with conventional power sources will probably be necessary in this to keep the gird up at low times.
though the idea of pitching it to ones town for a bond issue has merit.
thanks for that.

ed
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Went to an interesting meeting the other day at the downtown library here in Alberta.
A presentation by Chris ? the Author of A Geography of Hope.
Excellent work by a very knowledgeable and dedicated man.
Main point for me.... we have the technology today to make the beneficial changes.
I wish I could have asked him though whos going to pay for the switch over
from a Carbon economy to a hydrogen or sustainable one.
I've come up with a few ideas... myself that might work in that regard

Like the governments could issue of Climate bonds
where interests rates on yield goes higher on the passage of time as well as a reduction in global
CO2 rates. The current rate being about 360 ppmv. So if that CO2 rate went down after 5 years the interest on the bond would be higher.

As well the Gov could give 60% of difference in item cost or tax credits or incentives for the buying of the usually more expensive sustainable economy products than carbon economy ones. That would give a gradual phaseout from the carbon economy towards a sustainable economy.

As well Chris mentioned at the meeting that the Denmark government sponsored a sustainable community contest where communities in Denmark where challenged to come up with concepts for their greening and sustainability and the winning community received a large money grant to implement their proposals. This community on an island near Denmark now finds itself as a leader in environmental friendliness and sustainability of the world much like Findhorn Eco village in Scotland. This community introduced organic farming, farm owned wind power, solar panels and a community solar grid.

It seems this is all very necessary as the Earth it seems is not designed to support a carbon economy.

ed
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swanlake 10 months ago
Feb 3, 2008
Sunday
Alberta

Automobile Quantum Weirdness

Well hi...
over the years certain things have happened regarding my vehicles and I've always strived to figure out why and usually can jig some rational explanation for them but then again
there is always that inevitable bit that remains a puzzle. Today though a encompassing
explanation presents itself given my understanding of the effect of quantum weirdness that can occur on the molecular and nano levels. It boggles though
when we try to be purely rational beings in an unfathomable universe.

okay case in point
I was having car troubles yesterday probably due in inception to the cold weather so I found the source
was a loose battery connection so tighten it up and walla car starts and runs better than before but what? now the heater doesn't work.?????? So check the fuse
theyre okay and all solid in place . so search on internet and can not find or can find causes but people are now trying to make a buck selling such info with no guarentee that it will fix the problem so exit that route well duh ???? with that and give up for the day..... So anyway that was yesterday. So go out today
start the car and walla shes back to her old performance but bingo now the heater is working. Now some would say there maybe a timed circuit reset that clicked in overnight but then why is in not running as good as when the heater was out? so anyway on a molecular level it could be summed up that given the complexity humanity, machine and society has achieved things may now and perhaps were before to a lessor degree, operating in accord to a degree of quantum weirdness. Its either that or get out the wallet and spend a fortune trying to figure out what the now nonproblem was and then still have a few bits in left field that don't compute .... well I just as soon put it down to quantum weirdness than waste a lot of my life, time, and money pretending I can figure all such things out and find meaningful understanding and skill.

anyway
please adjust your sets
this is a quantum weirdness zone....


ed
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