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Did I waken up super intelligent one day? Did I have a head transplant? When I was at school I was as thick as mince, if not thicker. So what happened? Or am I still being thick? For me it’s not hard to fix this society; I’ve even a list of things that I’d do, tomorrow morning.

1) Make all transactions in every government department totally open to any scrutiny by any human on the face of the planet. After all, they are supposed to server us, so why can’t we see what they’re up to?  From defence to NHS budgets. From council budgets to cabinet meeting minutes. From expenses to employees. From military spending to security ops. If the “baddies” all know we’re looking at them and we all know who they are, we’ve a better chance of “stopping them”.

2) Make it compulsory for every company to operate in the same fashion as our newly updated governments do; totally open, totally transparent. No more trade secrets or dodgy accounting. All open and searchable. Not only would information that humans have at their finger tips become infinitely more valuable, as it would amalgamate with other pieces of information it would speed the development of the species up. Who knows what fixes we are currently storing inside companies that are in competition for profit?

So, am I being thick or would those things help transform the society? What are you waiting for..go demand them. Band together, change the face of this earth whilst you still walk it:)

For me the migration is the evolution of the productive forces on the planet. They have taken us through Slavery, Feudalism, Capitalism and now they are moving us forward to System X, for want of a better label.

The fact that I, you, and othesr, can conceive of it, and actually detail how it may be, means that it is closer than any of us think. In fact, the seeds have been planted and they are already growing. The evolution of the productive forces on this planet is continuing; no surprise there.

The idea of opness and non antagonistic competion are just two of the notions floating around. We all know the problem now, and we've seen it implode in on itself.

The future is becoming clearer and clearer ever day, and not just to us lot that sit about and think about it; but to everyone. Politicians have been exposed. Bankers have been exposed. The "free market" has been exposed.

All that exposure and no one arrested...i'm off down the park to try it myself! LOL

Thanks for commenting man.

“I can really go for opness and non antagonistic competition but if I went for every idea that was floating around I'd be really confused.”

That’s why I never would ask you to “go for” or “buy into” anything I’m saying. I have done the logical analysis of the current situation and I have taken the time to highlight the two factors which are currently at odds with the growth of the species on this planet.

1) Antagonistic competition ( think large institutions and secrecy and wasting of resources )

2) The profit motive ( as embodied by point 1 )

So you see, at that level, my work is done. The analysis is out there and is up for analysis itself and even changing when it’s been shown to be wrong. ( which has yet to happen by the way, or I’d have shut up a long time ago )

That is what I’m pushing here; the analysis. I am not trying to sell you anything or ask you to buy into something, but if you follow the logic and you can’t knock it down, then it’s more than likely to be real.

And when I understood that, my whole world shifted.

“If I went for the idea of an evolution of the productive forces on the planet someone would soon remind me that there are other forces at hand, “

What are these other forces you speak about?

“It's great to be relaxed about the future if we can be confident that we're doing whatever it takes to make it work. “

"Or are the seeds that have been planted (what seeds?) programmed in their dna to know what to do when rigged politics, rigged banking and the rigged 'free market' whither to the ground. "

I love your use of the word “rigged” in the above quote. Like somehow your internal moral compass tells you that “capitalism should be great and is great” so the only explanation for things going “wrong” is that the system is “rigged”. That is a form of conditioned thought, I’m sorry to say. If the whole system seems “rigged” then it is the systemic nature of the beast. That beast is currently capitalism. The moral high ground that we are sold, by the media and everywhere else, is that “corruption” leads to human suffering. Implied in that is “corruption of the capitalist idea”. Nothing could be further from the truth. If bankers and politicians and even you and me, are not out to make the most of our every second, and to fook with everyone else, then we are not playing the game correctly. Those are the real rules.

"First you must learn how to smile as you kill"

Language as a tool of mass manipulation is a scary thing when you see it. I’d urge you not to “believe” a word I say, but actually think it through, then you’ll understand. I’m not selling a god or a devil or an ideal, i’m just doing the analysis.

Then maybe..Just maybe..

“Either way, fingers crossed!”

We can start taking direct action, instead of just hoping.

I’m glad we’re connected.

Peace,

Dunk

Hey man,

thanks for taking the time to understand what i'm saying on the site; that's really nice of you. And of course, if i can be of any help, just pick my brains.

The point about the profit motive and "keepng it", if you, or anyone, is that attached to it, could be potentially carried out by the method that i described here:

http://realityinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=6#post-7

Having said that, that would be a re-shaping of capitalism as we know it.

Hi,

Sorry for the delay in this message. I'd like to start by quoting you...

“In other cases there might be a glitch. I know a guy who's smart enough to have developed a revolutionary new type of solar water heater. Should he be forced to share his work-in-progress with another guy who's smart enough to read someone else's design and then have it knocked up cheap in China? In that case the profit motive is not removed either, just the possibility of profiting from years of effort.”

I am sorry to say that it’s hard for me to know how to start to respond as it seems that I’m already fighting latent hostility to the idea:

“Should he be forced to share his work”  [ My bold ]

It is obviously the word forced that I have issue with here. One has to understand that by sharing technology then they are advancing their own life. In our current sphere, though an idea operating outside of capitalism as much is as possible, is one prime example; Free and Open software. (FOSS)

The central tenet behind that is open collaboration of ideas so that those ideas grow. Ideas once released into the wild will always be in the wild. If I take an idea from the wild, change it, make something better or even just different, I then release it back into the wild for the cycle to begin again. It is in this fashion that huge pieces of software have grown up and huge business, in the capitalist form, have also flourished. Google for any of the following phrases:

Ubuntu
Linux
SLED
GPL

And you’ll see what I mean.

When one does the analysis one realises that “force” can not form part of any future society that does not have its roots in antagonistic competition as one would realise that to share ideas, is to grow ideas. Your friend would be rushing to give his ideas to humanity. At a systemic level that would mean regime change the world over.

Currently, as you know, Capitalism is our system. The central tenets of that are

1)    Antagonistic competition: I fight you for jobs. I fight you for resources.
2)    The Profit Motive

My article is suggesting that changing one of these principles would be a first step at creating a human based society. A society fit to call itself such.

So if your friend wants my advice, patent the idea, make sure everyone knows it’s his and then release it into the wild in such a way as all future art based upon it also has to be released into the wild. After all, if 12 large companies decide to make it, each of them would love to say they employ the guy that invented it and not only for being top dog, but also, who knows more about it than him?

I love the idea that you share your work in public, that is crucial. I share my writings too. What i actually get paid to do as a job of work is not mine to sell, as it has been bought by the company that pays my wages. Again, hidden art; not ideal. And a fundamental example of antagonistic competition ( “we” are fighting our competitors in our market ) in action.
 
I would love to forward any of these ideas to NATO but I fear that such a radical idea for the earth is maybe beyond their understanding and it may not be that good for my health:| LOL

Seriously, if I can be of any assistance, just tell me how.

Peace,

Dunk

PS. I am not necessarily saying that the GPL is the answer as I believe that it is incomplete for our ( humanities ) purposes.

The GPL is a license that some software is created under.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License

I think if you google the words above you'll find a very large community that maybe you didn't know existed? Free to interact humans interacting to produce commodities as we know them in this digital age.

It is basically the next system after capitalism already with us, but that is how things have to happen. The seeds of the next, are born in the now.

So you think it too radical for NATO? :D

Peace

Dunk

PS. If you go through our website you will see that force and coercion and any kind of behavior such is exactly what we don't stand for. To even think it is beyond anything we can even contemplate tolerating and we have kick banned people from the forum ( http://www.realityinfo.org/forum )  for even suggesting such.