Topic: Since There's A Topic Area on Women, Should There Also Be One on Men?
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Hi Pax,
You mention three sub-portals - Men's Health, Men and Violence and Male Circumcision. Where are they, I cannot find them. Sorry I sometimes have a hard time with computers. FLyer... |
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Hi Jed,
How are you? I am glad you drew some attention to the need have have mens related topics on the site as well as womens. I am interested in hearing more about your work and I wanted to let you know about an upcoming competition hosted by Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Ashoka’s Changemakers. You can check out our online competitions at http://www.changemakers.net. Our next competition will be addressing Young Men at Risk and we are looking to reach a broader audience for input, advice, experiences and expertise in the field in order to come up with some innovations that will really have impact on transforming the lives of so many young men at risk around the world. I checked out your site, looked into some of the authors you mentioned and I looked at the BALLE conference. Great things! I would love it if you could share with me your knowledge about organizations that are working to address the mens issues that you raised below. Are there any stand out organizations or individuals in each of the categories? Men and Violence: General Men's Health Minority Men's Health Indigenous Men's Health (Aus, NZ) Men in Prisons Male Circumcision Demographics (hikikomori) Gender Equality Family Planning Male Rites of Passage Peace, War, and Security Countries with large percentages of young, single men include: Iraq, Iran, Algeria, Turkey, Egypt, India, Afghanistan, China, and Israel. Masculinity, Meat-Eating, and Global Warming If it would be more appropriate to take this into a more private discussion, feel free to email me at dfrasz@ashoka.org or call me at 703-600-8311 I hope to hear from you soon. Dana |
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Hi there -
WiserEarth now has a Men's portal! There are three sub-portals - Men's Health, Men and Violence and Male Circumcision. |
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Hi Jed,
Once again, thanks for increasing my knowledge on this topic. Someday WiserEarth will have the features to allow the community to move a suggestion about new areas of focus from suggestion, to discussion, to voting, to definition writing, and finally implementation. But those features are still a ways off. So until then, we will implement good suggestions and discussions from the community on our end and I think the discussion about new men's areas of focus is happening on Tuesday. I suspect as a first step we'll see Men's Health, Men and Violence, and probably some definitions in other groups will be expanded. So it isn't completely democratic yet, but we do want to be responsive to community wants and needs and your suggestion is on deck for moving forward. |
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Hey Michael,
Your points are all good ones. I can only imagine the kind of process it has taken to get WiserEarth to the point it is now and the complications of creating a meaningful and useful say to classify the huge number of organizations throughout the world. From my perspective as someone who has been active working with these issues for more than 40 years, I think the Wiser environment is an imporant one for bringing together the various individuals and organizations who are making a difference in the world. Since the way things are classified has an impact on how they are perceived, I think this discussion is important. For instance, we have had a view in health-care that, as you say, thought "the entire body of medical history seemed to ignore women, and therefore, developed for men," yet new research shows us that we have neglected important aspects of men's health as well as women's health. In fact, it has been a number of leading women's health activisits who have been at the forefront of a new approach focused on gender-specific health care that would take into account women's and men's unique health-care needs. Marianne J. Legato, M.D. was one of the first research physicians to recognize that women have very different medical needs than men. Her work on heart disease in women changed the way the health-care system has offered care. More recently she founded the Partnership for Gender-Specific Medicine at Columbia University. She acknowledges that this new field, though initially focused on the health-care needs of women, is for men as well. She says, "until now, we've acted as though men and women were essentially identical except for the differences in their reproductive function. In fact, information we've been gathering over the past ten years tells us that this is anything but true, and that everywhere we look, the two sexes are startingly and unexpectedly different not only in their normal function but in the ways they experience illness." Our old system of medicine which assumed "people are people" is inadequate. For instance we now know that men produce 52 percent more of the hormone needed to prevent depression (serotonin) than women. It may be one of the reasons that studies show that women are twice as likely as men to experience depression. When their serotinin levels drop, women tend to withdraw and become anxious and reclusive. Men, on the other hand, respond to low serotonin levels with aggressive behavior and often increase their alcohol intake. This may be one of the reasons that male depression is not as readily recognized and why the male suicide rate is 4 to 15 times higher than it is for women. However, WiserWorld is organized, if we focus on women, I believe we should focus on men. A gender-specific approach to our understanding of human rights, environmental health, and indigenous communities, will add an important perspective to our understanding and the actions that are required to save the fragile human web we are all apart of. |
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Hey Jed,
Thanks for the excellent, informative post. I learned a lot just be reading it. Here's some feedback: Men and Violence - good, but perhaps we should change the women's one to Women and Violence instead of Women's Safety from Violence. To be symmetrical. Men's Health - At first I was thinking this category would not be necessary, because until a few decades ago, almost the entire body of medical history seemed to ignore women, and therefore, developed for men. But your approach of how our received culture affects a man's image of himself and therefore his health, seems like a 'hidden' injustice. I support it. Although at this time, I would hold off on the sub-groups. Men and Prisons - At this time, I think this falls under the umbrella of 'Prison Reform and Policy' and doesn't need a separate area of focus. Male Circumcision - Don't know how I feel about this on at this time. From the literature I've read, male and female circumcision are very, very different. Rightly or wrongly, men's circumcision seems to be carried out for reasons of health or 'to be like dad'. Justification for women's circumcision is grounded in belief that women can't be trusted with their sexuality. It is a control issue and it is the definition of a social injustice. So at this time, I think male circumcision groups should fall under "Men's Health." Demographics, Gender Equality, and Family Planning - WiserEarth has these three areas of focus already. I would be fine to see their definitions expanded to include the topics you mentioned. Male Rites of Passage - if a lack of male rites of passage has led to men being violent, then I would include this under Men and Violence. Peace, War and Security - I would be okay seeing the definition be expanded to include the importance of economic development to prevent idle hands. Meat-eating and Masculinity - I think this would be perfect for Men's Health. Good discussion Jed. Keep your ideas on this topic coming and we'll push for the creation of at least one or two of these to get started. |
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Friends, I’m just becoming familiar with the Wiser environment. One way to see where a focus on males may fit would be to look at the women’s area. Another would be to get feedback from men’s leaders who work in these areas and see what categories make sense to them. Here’s an initial look at some possible areas of focus that I would suggest we consider. Men and Violence: The World Health Organization defines violence as "the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, that either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation." WHO devides violence into three broad categories: Self directed violence, interpersonal violence, and collective violence. There are a number of organizations that focus on males, both as perpetrators and victims of violence. Men's Health When I began working in the area of men’s health in 1965 there was little focus on the specific health needs of men (or women). Dr. Herb Goldberg focused attention on men’s health in his 1976 best seller, The Hazards of Being Male. “The male has paid a heavy price for his masculine ‘privilege’ and power. He is out of touch with his emotions and his body. He is playing by the rules of the male game plan, and with lemming-like purpose he is destroying himself—emotionally, psychologically, and physically.” More recently Dr. Will Courtenay (Clinical faculty member, school of Medicine, Department of Family and Community Medicine, University of California, San Francisco) noted “Men live much shorter lives than women and have higher risks for all 15 leading causes of death. Despite these statistics, most American men think their health is ‘excellent’ and they’re dying to prove it.” Minority and indigenous men’s health is even worse than the general population. I think we could have the following sub-categories under men’s health. General Men's Health Minority Men's Health Indigenous Men's Health (I spent 4 months last year in Australia and New Zealand with Indigenous men talking about health issues) Men in Prisons Our prison population continues to increase in the U.S. and throughout the world a disproportionate number of men (particularly minority and indigenous men end up in prison). Male Circumcision I spoke to a woman active in the fight to end female genital mutilation. She said, it had never occurred to her that male circumcision was comparable in any way until, "I heard the screams of the baby boy. It was the same scream I've been hearing with girls." She now works to end genital mutilation among boys and girls. Demographics There are important demographic realities about males in the world. For instance, in Bare Branches: The Security Implications of Asia’s Surplus Male Population, researchers Valerie Hudson and Andrea den Boer note, “As the two largest societies in the world, China and India comprise more than 38 percent of the world’s population. Because of the socially sanctioned practice of offspring sex selection, both societies have surpluses of young adult males (ages 15-34)…The masculinization of Asia’s sex ratios is one of the overlooked ‘megatrends’ of our time, a phenomenon that may very likely influence the course of national and perhaps even international politics in the twenty-first century.” Another major demographic trend is the huge decrease in life-span among men in the former Soviet Union. In Japan a new phenomenon of social withdrawal, called hikikomori, among males is increasingly prevalent. Young males, often taunted at school, return home and shut themselves in, refusing to leave. In the 1970s, the Japanese identified another phenomenon among males, karoshi, or death by overwork. Gender Equality Men often fear women as well as feeling dependent on them. This dynamic often leads to subjugation and violence. In his book, Misogyny: The Male Malady, anthropologist David Gilmore studied cultures throughout the world and concluded that in all places and in all times, there has been a tendency for men to fear and hate women. He discovered that “men love and hate women simultaneously and in equal measure, that most men need women desperately, and that most men reject this driving need as both unworthy and dangerous.” Dr. Devra Davis, senior advisor to the World Health Organization, has found that there is a decline in male reproductive viability that seems to be caused by our destruction of the environment and use of pesticides. Family Planning Family planning has often fallen on women’s shoulders, but a number of programs focus on the guys. Male Rites of Passage Anthropologist David Gilmore has done excellent research on the importance of male rites of passage. The lack of adequate rites of passage are one of the causes of male violence in the world. A number of organizations are focused on this issue. Peace, War, and Security Gender is an important variable in understanding peace, war, and security. According to a study reported by Edie Weiner, one of the leading researchers on future trends, “The most destabilizing geopolitical force in the world today is the vast number of young men without jobs and other opportunities.” One of the leading predictors of violence in countries throughout the world is the percentage of young men between the ages of 29 and 29 who are not married. Countries with large percentages of young, single men include: Iraq, Iran, Algeria, Turkey, Egypt, India, Afghanistan, China, and Israel. Masculinity, Meat-Eating, and Global Warming Meat-eating has long been associated with masculinity, wealth, and power. We now know that this meat-centered diet is not only unhealthy for individuals, but puts added stresses on the environment. |
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I think I'm down with some sort of men's area of focus.
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This could be a space for how males as a "group" can be allies or leaders on causes that defy "conventional" organizing (see the org Men Stopping Rape). An area of focus would strengthen the focus and coalitions of groups working towards this issue more so than a hub. But I think we need to work towards a more in-depth analysis on a men's aof first. If Im goin to support an aof for males, I need to know exactly what I am supporting.
Jed: do you have a proposal for a title for such an aof? |
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We certainly are all in this together. As someone who has been working for gender justice and healing for men, women, and children, for the last 42 yeasrs, I believe that WiserEarth has a unique opportunity to bring communities together.
I don't believe that any of the focus areas need to be in conflict with each other. I think there is room for dialogue and ultimately we are all looking for creative ways to heal ourselves and the planet. I'm not sure where the work that I've been doing and hundreds of human rights organizations focused on men might fit, but I think we should find a way to include all who are doing good work. |
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I agree, David. Women-related areas of focus on WiserEarth were initially created to address the issues women face as a historically and continuously under-represented part of our global population. Jed's also got a great point in that there are excellent male-based organizations worldwide that address gender justice issues. Since the WiserEarth taxonomy focuses on social justice for underserved groups (even down to disease- Malaria, TB, and AIDs are all suffered disproportionately by underdeveloped countries, for example.), I would suggest creating a community hub for male-based gender justice organizations instead of an actual area of focus.
If Men's groups were added as an AoF, I would also want to be careful that we don't create a polarized representation of gender on WiserEarth. Transgender rights, for example, and the LGBT community as a whole are still struggling for awareness. 'Rights and Equality of LGBT' are currently under Human Rights. Where would you see a male-based gender justice portal fitting into the taxonomy? |
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My impression has been that in general, recent history and issues have predominantly focused on men, and this is why there is a need for exclusive "women's" sections : to try and make some sort of balance.
While I accept and understand this, I am wary of separating out "men" into another section without a compelling reason. Ultimately, we are all in this together, and what's relevant for one should be relevant for all. |
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I recently heard about Wiser Earth from Paul Hawkin's book and from meeting people at the recent BALLE conference.
When I explored the Wiser topic areas I noticed that there was a topic area focused on Women, but not one on Men. For the last 42 years I have focused my work on gender-justice issues. I've written 8 books including one called "The Warrior's Journey Home: Healing Men, Healing Planet." In it I talk about the relationship between traditional gender roles and the destruction of the planetary eco-system and the emergence of a new gender roles that are more in balance with nature as well as the human spirit of gender equality. I work with men's issues that include men in prisons, male suicide (My recent book The Irritable Male Syndrome: Managing the 4 Key Causes of Depression and Aggression explores violence in all its forms, internal as well as external), minority men's issues, and other gender issues related to men. I feel the Wiser community has a unique opportunity to bring about healing and justice for men and women in the world and to use that healing focus for the healing of the planet. I'm interested in your feedback. Jed Diamond |
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Hi Flyer. You can find them on the Areas of Focus page always linked in the left navigation bar. Cheers, Bowo