My Profile privacy options +8
Need more control over My Profile is a 'must have' for our current needs. I am evaluating a number of possible online collaboration tools for a growing community of change agents, and Wiser Earth is our preferred choice... however... unless there is an option to selectively hide much of the personal information on My Profile, it's a non-starter.
Our group members need to know where each other are, and to be able to contact each other quickly and easily, but many have very good reasons not to wish their addresses or telephone numbers, for example, to be more widely available. We would also like to add other profile information to share amongst ourselves, but not with the wider world, even within Wiser Earth.
Solution:
Ideally, from our perspective, it would be great to see three things, working together (and this is a bit of a 'brain-dump', not a carefully thought-through proposal, so it may have all kinds of implications I haven't thought of!!):
1) First you offer three levels of visibility:
PUBLIC INFO
o Show to all Wiser Earth members
SEMI-PRIVATE INFO
o Show to friends, and members of the following group(s) of which I am a member
[ ] Group 1
[ ] Group 2
[ ] Group 3
PRIVATE INFO
o Show to friends only
2) Then for each main block of user info (including the photo!), offer three radio buttons to set the visibility of that data:
o public o semi-private o private
The most basic info (like Name and Area of focus) would default to public, much of the rest perhaps to semi-private? About could have two form boxes, one for Public, a second additional one with an assignable visibility level.
3) (less critical) It would be great to have the facility to add additional fields to the Profile -- and perfection would be to have a mechanism for group-specific additional fields to be added to your profile when you join the group (though always with an option to refuse!)... but perhaps that's getting a bit TOO cute!
;-)
I appreciate that all this risks adding levels of complexity that are unnecessary and potentially confusing for some users, but careful wording, layout and perhaps context-driven visibility of options could make this more helpful than confusing. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether there's a wider need for this within this community, or whether what I'm looking for for this particular community simply requires more privacy options than are appropriate on Wiser Earth?
Jon
Comments (1 - 18 of 18)
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Flag comment for removal JTHESSERT 2 months ago
my point is that the idea behind the privacy option is increased accessibility: if the thing gets overly complex for a new user than accessibilty is diminished and the process self-defeats the original purpose of the privacy option...
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wiser***
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@JT: Completely agree - better to invest in outreach than features at this point.
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@ Angus: that is consistent with my comment/ perspective... |
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@JT: FYI: From what I have heard several groups have not come on WiserEarth because of the lack of a private profile option. But I suspect, as do you, that this feature in and of itself will not substaintially increase usage.
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I agree with Peggy: I think overdoing this will be a mistake... I think the most simple Public vs Private profile option you can institute the better... once the active user base has grown than perhaps more modifications would be in order. Personally I don't really care about this issue but to broaden accesibility of the website for student groups/ businesses etc. I think it will work to wiserearth's advantage / be an appealling feature.
the focus should be on developing ways to grow the active base ... not on customizing the overall user experience for a specific community of users. I dont think something as minor as this by itself will really grow the base, but I don't think it will have the opposite effect either... once wiser*** gets on its feet ... like JonathanHughes said ... student groups will probably enjoy the enhanced privacy option. |
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My suggestions for default public (i.e. limited profile) and private (i.e. full profile) fields are as follows below. But that a user can choose to expose more or less as s/he chooses.
Required and Public - no choice always public Username Full Name Country Timezone I am Public default - can choose to make private (i.e. part of full profile) City, State, Province, Zip Code I Speak Private default - can choose to make public (i.e. part of limited profile) Address Text & Voice Messagers --> Turn into Chat and separate VOIP fields (consider integrating Skype here since everyone uses it in our community) Phone Extension Tollfree Fax Address2 --> Is that a field name typo? Should it be Alternate Address? Not sure what this is? |
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Honore suggested that we have Full (Private) and Limited (Public) profile types and that we get to choose which friends gets to see which profile when we friend them. I like the concept.
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I agree with Peggy. As for implementation of her idea, we could provide a selection box like when you select AOFs. The default could be every profile field in the public section on the left (or most) but that you can select things to put on the right in the private box. Only friends can see you private info - which would provide some incentive to have friends on Wiserearth.
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I like the idea, and would also vote for a simpler version: Public Private: shared with people from your network |
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I like the way that LinkedIn has created the ability to have a 'public profile' should you choose to want to share more personal details. I think more than 2 versions of your profile though starts to get too complicated. So, I agree with the idea, but would vote for a more simplified version.
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Must have for WE platform - I started writing a very similar suggestion
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It would be nice to implement a network-specific system of content and user identification like Facebook and many other networking platforms.
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Jonathan, glad you like what this group can do, someone suggested putting "Suggestions" group as a permanent link on the homepage, perhaps this is a possibility. Inviting your network to join would be a start. It would give it some good publicity. Speaking of which, I should do that...
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Is there any way we can make this dialogue more accessible to people who don't chance upon this section of the website... it's certainly got me thinking very differently about what's possible on this site... JNH
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A BIG, BIG THUMBS UP to what Jon Ralls is suggesting here. This isn't small...
To introduce such a vital element of personal choice and control would have a profound effect, I believe - NOT ONLY on the incentive & opportunity for people to share ideas and have meaningful dialogues... BUT ALSO on the capacity of the Wiser Earth site itself to successfully evolve into a powerful catalyst for change on the scale it deserves and seeks. |
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As a practical matter, without such privacy controls on personal information, some people simply will not provide the sensitive information. So I think, yes we should have privacy controls on personal info - better to let people share information where they will than to make it impossible for them.
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I totally agree with everything Jon is suggesting!!! As a Co-Administrator of a number of Groups, and as a WiserEarth Editor I have noticed that a significant number of people leave information out and/or just ignore the field.
Perhaps this is because they are not interested if a FaceBook reality to be shared with everyone who logged onto WiserEarth. But if they had the option to chose what information they would like to share with whom, I think it would be to everyone's benefit jp |

