Sharing Engine
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Hi Phil,
Thanks for the flag. Have changed the wording to your second suggestion.
Keep it coming.
Cheers Daniel |
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Hi Daniel, sorry if misunderstanding, but
"Will make these information feeds available for republishing by TN participant websites." looks a little odd to me, in the context of
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Yes, I like this SHARE LINK WITH TRANSITION NETWORK idea. One could share a news item or an event or a project or an issue. So, this means that it doesn't have to just be the news, event or project "owner" that can post a "signpost" feed/link item but also third parties can share links too. And there'll probably be ratings in there too at some point. Good idea. Thanks.
Hey, I hope you can take this the right way, but how about putting the good ideas at the top of your post? Like a news article? Heading, summary and then detail and story. Would bring clarity and structure to our process.
Love!
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I have been agonizing and preparing for two surgeries I have procrastinated over a year. It should not be anything too serious. I am also near end of settling my parents estate with two greedy psychopathic siblings. So currently I am just useless. I received post from Andrius on transitionuk.ning.com, and asked him to come here to contribute some of his ideas. Perhaps he will have some more considerations to confuse us! I am just grasping most of the time, and hoping that my past mistakes might not be revisited, and some of my better current understandings conveyed. I would believe that there are standard markers or coding for digesting the imports and exports of information. Google is full of all sorts of instruction on how to properly code and mark up data. Currently I have been playing with google reader, and someday hope to become fully competent in editing feeds for selective presentations. but I know there are other programs that can assist in editing and presenting feeds. maybe some are free like google's? and, of course, I am totally impressed with wiserearth's google map interface. i sort of see a TN CENTRAL functioning mostly as a support tool for technology transfer and information and advice, a place too where technology support people might show up too. for instance, i used to run program called DRAGONFLY, and continually relied on their main website to get addons and other relevant info pertaining to getting my website functioning or developed they way I wanted to. Also, by experiencing many other websites (running Dragonfly) I was able to figure out what worked well and what did not. there would be forums where people could find technical assistance for various problems. but in the end, it was all about Dragonfly, and eveyrthing conforming to their program platform, or them conforming to API, PHP, open source, Google, etc. FYI, after Dragonfly, Ning, Grou.ps, mixxt.com - joomla, plone, drupal, all look like proprietary impossible-to-steer programs, usually require $60 an hour technicians to program and run. and as for Google, after going through all their new widgetry a few times just over the last 8 months, and examining programs online, it is remarkable what could be around the corner. or maybe the key or a key will be in the calais semantic stuff that upperholme just supplied a link too. but for visual sake, check out what google does for the Real Estate market, the real estate programs/maps, if rewritten or tweaked, could make an interesting tool for Transtion Network Central. I think yahoo also has real estate programs too, but I would be more inclined to stick with the more popular google database rss mapping capabilities.
Consider too, the ways in which one can SHARE with Facebook and other sites. In my browser, i have now SHARE ON FACEBOOK and GOOGLE MARKER, with a click, it automatic shares or transfers a page to facebook for me, or adds a marker to my custom search engines which i use at my websites. or, i automatically add a feed to my RSS news |
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Hi Sandi,
I'm reading what you write but feel the need for some expansion on your ideas. I'd appreciate getting more clarity from you specifically in the area of what you are recommending for me to do (rather than not do) if you get my drift.
I really understand the point of recommending for us not to go alone. That's why we would base the Sharing Engine on industry standards for news, events and media descriptions. You've prompted me to consider that we do not need to be restricted to TN website information but could also ingest feeds from other sources and make those too available for syndication.
For projects and skills, where the objects in question are more specific to TN, we may need to spin our own schema. However, the encapsulation/encoding method will still be industry standard be it RSS, Atom, RDF or microformat. The aim here is not to isolate TN from the rest of the world but to assist TN to interface with and share with (receiving and giving) the rest of the world.
Also, it's about encouraging TN websites to participate in semanticising their data. The Sharing Engine is a reference model that we hope that TN websites will adopt. This will only assist in the TN message spreading still more rapidly - as people are then able to use the data in mashups and ways that we haven't even considered yet. Cool...
Please keep your comments coming they are an inspiration to me.
Cheers Daniel |
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thanks for sharing this. Sounds exactly like all the acrobatics and issues I faced in 1995 when I first tried to setup a mutlipurpose website and directory that could function on many platforms and levels, that are now, of course, defunct or "degraded."
A long time ago, i took our online HTML database catalog and macro inserted the necessary markers to make it easily searchable with google per entry. Today i need to do a complete overhaul of the site. But is still sort of works.
I think Google will continue to be the future for organizing and retreiving information. advanced search feature allow for
keyword site: macronet.org on html records Perhaps grading systems too, can help preselect suitable material automatically. Perhaps some of the systems you believed were not complicated or sophisticated enough, such as Ning, Google, Wiserearth, etc. might eventually develop the overriding capacities to accomplish the tasks you need. I would not focus so much on backward compatibility that much to start. Yahoo has grading systems, Ning does not.
While we were busy here hashing over the non future of a TN core site, Transition sites doubled their population on Ning and Idealist.org joined the Obama activist/volunteer online project. Is trying to be too independent hijacking bigger and better opportunities to work with larger or emerging platforms and initiatives?
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Take a look at http://opencalais.com/ for an example of a third party hosted service that takes a good bit of the pain away. I think there are other approaches that may be equally/more applicable.
Regards Graham |
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With the soon to be launched WiserEarth API something like this could be created - I'm imagining that a bunch of TT org listings, an event, a resource etc is sharable through modules/widgets that work on the main TT platforms in use to today - Ning, Google, Yahoo, Joomla, Drupal, Plone etc.
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>Sharing information becomes a whole lot easier when we make our information "semantic" and bring meaning to our information in a machine readable way.
That may be so, but isn't it a big challenge to get large numbers of people to set up info in this way? Any ideas how you tackle that challenge? Are there any actual, current examples of people creating this sort of info re sustainability / transition town stuff etc that you can point to that we can look at? |



Here is example of one combined custom search box. Not sure if it will come in here, if not, here it is on ning site. It combines 100s of sites.
http://transitioncalifornia.ning.com/page/search-1
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Here is my feed and search experimental pages, do not miss tool tab. I also setup a Google Reader tool and Google Marker tool in my browser to collect the feeds and links, then they are automatically added to a custom search or to my reader, where i can then add it to a pre-existing custom feed that can be generated from any site using the widgetry. i have have tried the best i can to seed some sites with these tools.
Yes, I personally picked links and feeds that I believed were Transition friendly, also, i would judge whether to include sites that were linked within linked site for searches. All ning transition sites include the sites that are listed within it.
http://transitionearth.ning.com/more feeder experiments here using the grou.ps platform
http://grou.ps/hopedance